----25 AFC POINT CHECKLIST----

1)       FIDGETY MOVEMENTS AND TIGHT SHOULDERS AND TAKING YOURSELF TOO SERIOUSLY OR BEING TOO BUSINESSLIKE OR "SOPHISTICATED"

2)       TALKING TOO FAST

3)       LAUGHING AT YOUR OWN JOKES

4)       SAYING "RIGHT" OR "YOU KNOW" AFTER STATEMENTS

5)       STANDING WITH LEGS NOT HALF A METER APART AT LEAST

6)       TALKING TOO SOFTLY OR LOUD

7)       MOVING YOUR HANDS AROUND WHILE YOU TALK

8)       LEANING IN *or* 'PECKING'

9)       FACING BODY/FEET TOWARDS HER BEFORE SHE EARNED IT

10)   CHASING WHEN SHE WALKS

11)   NOT WITHDRAWING

12)   ANSWERING QUESTIONS TOO QUICKLY/EARLY

13)   TURNING YOUR HEAD (OR "SNAPPING") WHEN YOU'RE ADDRESSED

14)   GOING BACK TO A PRIOR THREAD THAT WAS INTERUPTED AT THE FIRST CHANCE/BREAK-IN-CONVO THAT YOU GET

15)   NOT APPEARING MORE INTO YOUR WINGMAN THEN THE CHICK

16)   TOO EAGER TO PAY ATTENTION - SAYING "what?" IF YOU CAN'T HEAR HER, PRIOR TO BEING IN RAPPORT

17)   REPLYING WITH OVERLY THOUGHT-OUT OF LOGICAL ANSWERS OR WITH OVERLY CLEAR/FORMAL PRONUNCIATION

18)   TAKING TOO MANY SENTENCES TO STATE AN IDEA THAT COULD BE STATED IN LESS SPACE

19)   BEING BOLD INSTEAD OF CONFIDENT

20)   OVERCOMPENSATING INSECURITIES

21)   OVERCOMPENSATING FAILURE OR SHORTCOMINGS

22)   GOING BACKWARDS IN THE PICKUP ON HER SCHEDULE

23)   WAITING FOR HER IF SHE LEAVES FOR ANY REASON (LIKE SAYS "I'M GOING TO THE WASHROOM, WAIT HERE)

24)   OVERLY REMEMBERING DETAILS ABOUT PAST CONVOS

25)   OFFERING TOO MUCH ABOUT YOURSELF TOO *EARLY

----CANNED MATERIAL STRUCTURE----

Canned material is great, but it needs STRUCTURE to be really effective. So what is the best structure? - the most efficient.

What i came to realize is that BT material (buying temp) and regular routines (examples include: bad ass kid, bear shit, "i need comfort and trust", girl code, sexual predator) slowly DHV over time. One will not make that much of a difference (unless combined with a takeaway [a neg]), but many will add up to DHVing and creating an attraction (attract phase). It's similar to what Mystery has said (something along the lines of how a comedian is perceived: 'if a comedian tells one funny joke, people will think "that's a funny joke"... but if he tells 5 funny jokes, people will think "that guy is funny"' - note, not word for word - credit Mystery). Also keep in mind that many girls only need a little value demonstration before they can assume attraction, while others need more.

So basically you have buying temp material, which is material that - well, disorients them. Buying Temperature = degree of disorientation. Some people don't like 'playing the buying temp game', but BT has a lot of advantages and should be utilized _at times_. These times include anytime the girl needs to be disoriented: pulling away from a BF, venue changes, getting the girls to spike and cause SP, phone game while still in the attract phase (to keep her away from logically thinking about - "oh... it's that club guy.."). In the meantime of having the BT up, you can display high value through other methods, or just run enough BT material to display high value.

My main purpose of BT at the early sarge is to keep her there. ie- if you keep her buying temp up, she'll stay there with you. However, if her buying temp is up and it drops a certain amount of degrees/levels, she'll leave (or start thinking about leaving). What i mean is this: if you are going loy-key or low BT and you've run some game, say her BT is a 4... if you let it drop off to a 1, she'll start thinking about leaving; now if you are really pumping her BT, say her BT is an 8... if you let it drop off to a 4, she'll start thinking about leaving. [btw, don't forget that sexual state is also BT, she is disoriented and not thinking logically]

OK, so basically you want to keep her BT at either the same level, or a gradual increase. At the same time, you want to display higher value as fast as possible (after all, this is fast seduction). So you need to keep her BT up while DHVing (or vise versa, however you want to look at it) to make it the most efficient attract phase.  So how do we structure this into the PU? Basically i've broken down attract phase routines into separate parts: BT material (includes openers), DHVs, Role-playing frames, negs, and One-liners.

BT material includes openers b/c openers do the same thing that BT material does. It's something cool to talk about that engages her.  BT material and Role-playing frames are separate b/c role-playing frames requires attraction (already higher value - not the same as attract phase completion: attract phase completion is when you are in the beginning of c&t... and just b/c you might look handsome does not make you start there - that's the nice guy who starts at c&t (credit Mystery)). If you do not have attraction, role playing frames will not pump BT (disorientation), but BT material still can (mainly b/c without attraction, the girl will not go with the RP frame - she does not enter the frame). Role-playing frames are still very useful in pumping BT... they just need to be used later on - same as large amounts of kino.  [btw, if you're not good at kinoing and making it look like you are not trying to get them horny, then you better get good at it. Very KEY in my game]

DHVs means magic tricks (coin grab, coin exchange, wing wing wing) and IVDs. IVDs b/c you are displaying that you have value from your knowledge. When you use a DHV (magic trick or IVD), they will remember you at the end of the night b/c of it. [The funny thing about DHVs is that if you do a coin grab to another ASFer, although he consciously knows that it's a DHV or whatever, he'll still have a subcommunicated lower value after it's done... like there's no stopping it once it's done - it's all part of the dynamic (social dynamics).] I would give magic tricks about a 4 value and IVDs about a 2 value. ie - magic tricks DHV more than IVDs do. I'd also give a BT routine about a 1 value.

[Something that i'd suggest while doing magic tricks is to always either neg the target or AMOG the guy WHILE doing the magic trick. You have to see TD or some experienced guy do this. So you're DHVing a lot over the guy. I'd really suggest this for BFs. --> Something that i discovered awhile back is that once you have DHVed _over_ a guy that she is romantically involved with (has a crush on or is her BF)... once HE realizes that you are cooler than he is, THE GIRL WANTS YOU AT THIS POINT. Like it's human nature. Once the BF realizes that you are cooler than he is, assume the GF has automatic attraction to you.]

Negs lower their value. Negs include anything that will maker her feel self-conscious. If you fart in front of her and have a straight face on, she'll be embarrassed that you did that without fearing that she'd think less of you. This negs her - she now realizes that YOU don't care what she thinks about you. Negs bring people into YOUR reality. You can either use neg lines "that's cute how your belly sticks out like that", or you can use neg BL (body language) like back turns and loud burps. I've been sick for the last week, so i'll just hock up a HUGE luug and spit it while my targets are trying to talk to me. This is a form of a neg.

One-liners include: transitions (How does everyone know each other?), c&f lines, smooth lines (We're too similar.., We shouldn't be doing this, It's way too early in our relationship..), mini-cold reads, etc.

Also keep in mind that some routines have both DHV and BT qualities: by this i mean the trust test (IF you explain it too them and they learn how to do it), and Cs & Us (IF you use it as a mini-cold read beginning and then an IVD later on). This is why so many people like using IVDs as mini-cold reads... it's getting a duel reaction. I highly endorse these and using this IVD/BT combo.

So now to structure the attract phase PU efficiently: Open, Neg and DHV while keeping her BT up (suggest intertwining DHVs and BTs), use one-liners where handy, use RP frames in place of BT material ONLY after higher value has been established, pump buying temperature high before moving to isolate or venue change.

Basically you want to DHV enough so that you become relevant to her (the DHVs will make her attracted to you much quicker than BT will alone... but you need BT material to keep her there - that's why intertwining is suggested.

Also something random that i've been thinking of lately is that Kino actually QUALIFIES her more than pumps her BT. ie - if you use too much c&f or negs, their BT will decrease b/c they feel that you are overqualified. If you are in this position and you kino them, their BT will go back up, and they'll stay in set (of course there are other ways to keep them in set). However, if you are a 1 in looks and you kino a girl (ie - if you are lower value and underqualified), her buying temp will go down b/c you are qualifying her even more. If kino made her buying temp go up (without qualifying), then ugly men could kino HBs all they wanted, LOL... something to think about :)

----ATTRACTION MATERIAL----

BUYING TEMPERATURE MATERIAL (1)

INCLUDING OPENERS

MYSTERY GOT MARRIED OPENER

"Hey guys, do you think it's okay for two people to get married TWO WEEKS after meeting each other? Check it out, I got a friend who met a girl, and after a week, she moved in with him. Then, after two weeks, they went to Vegas and got married. We're all wierded out because we think our friend is moving too fast, but he's never seemed happier. What do you think about that? Would you ever marry a guy two weeks after meeting him? How in love would you have to be with someone to do that?"

JAP OPENER (W/ NEG)

Tested a new JAP opener tonight. This one is great cause while it’s an opener it’s also a mild neg. It really gets down the bitch shield too. It only works on the most obviously jappy girls.

SB007: Hey girls...you might be able to help me with something.

HBJAP: What?

SB007: Well...I’m not from around here, and I heard this new term today...

maybe you know what it means

HBJAP: Ok, what is it?

SB007: JAP! What is a JAP? All I know is that it isn’t referring to Japanese people... so what the hell does it mean?

HBJAP: OMG, OMG, hahaha... 

After this is said, they all look at each other and don’t know what the hell to say. They are at a loss for words, because... hey what are they supposed to say... “It’s me” hahah.

THE KHAKI OPENER

Similar in concept to the Dental Floss Opener of being a random silly question; day or night approaches. “Hey, guys, my friends and I were making fun of some frat boys, and got into an argument...is khaki a color or a fabric?” The correct answer is that khaki is a color, and most girls know this. You can go into, “See, I was thinking it was a color, but the thing is that you never see a khaki car or wallpaper color or anything like that!” and you’ve opened them.

Advantages: kind of funny, something you could conceivably actually be talking about, bulletproof convo starter. Disadvantages: Does nothing to convey value or attraction; you should have other routines ready to fire. This was invented by my superfly brother, who lurks here.

The Jealous Girlfriend Opener

Anyway, theJealous Girlfriend Opener works best in groups with more than one woman.

Style: Hey guys, let me get your opinion on something. I'm trying to give my friend over there advice, but we're just a bunch of guys and not qualified to comment on these matters.

HBs: What?

Style: Okay, see Wing over there. Well, he has been dating a girl for three months. And she just moved in with him. Now, this is a two part question. So, imagine you've been dating someone for three months. And he is still friends with his old girlfriend from college. How do you feel about that?

HBs: blah blah blah are they just friends blah blah blah

Style: Yes, they're JUST friends. There's nothing else going on. They talk like once a week at most.

HBs: I think it's fine/I don't think they should be talking/whatever

Style: Okay, now let's say that he has a drawer in his apartment. And in that drawer he keeps all of his old photographs and letters. Now, some of those letters happen to be from ex'es and some of the photographs happen to be with ex'es.

HBs: blah blah blah concerned comment blah blah question

Style: It's not like he ever looks at them. They are just there, like old souvenirs and memories of his past.

HBs: I think it's fine/I think he should put them away in a closet/He should destroy them/whatever

Style: Okay, the reason I'm asking is because WING's girlfriend says doesn't want him to talk to his ex from college at all. She wants him to cut it off completely. And she wants him to destroy all of his old photos and letters from ex'es. She says it's just holding onto the past, and he should let go of it now. Personally, I thought it was extreme and a bit insecure. But what do I know. I'm a guy. And, as we all know, guys think differently from girls...

OR…

Hi I need your opinion on something. My friend has a GF and she gets very jealous at times. She doesnt let him out with us to clubs because she thinks me and my other friends have a bad influence on him. She thinks we are bad boys and wants my friend to stay home with her on the weekends! As much as my friend loves his GF, he misses hanging out with us! What do you think he should do? Break up with her, give into the pussy whipped kingdom or change her opinion on the whole issue?

Wheelchair Opener

"HEY GUYS…I NEED A 10 SECOND FEMALE OPINION………. WOULD YOU DATE A GUY IN A WHEELCHAIR...?

If your set/target pauses, add "…even if was a really NICE wheelchair?"

"What if it was a really old wheel chair with a  squeaky wheel?"

"You know with bits falling off it. If it was rusty  would it come between you both?"

"What if the guy was suddenly cured by  *Jesus*...would you lose interest?"

"If it was an electric wheel chair would you steal  it while he slept......and take it for a joyride?"

"Would you let him roll up and take you for a spin?"  It would be so much fun....you could go on *a mini  adventure...*  [if you want to you can go into future  projections….]

"What if he got worse and fell into LIFE  SUPPORT...would you stay with him....even if it was  a really *NICE* life support system..!"  "---y'know state of the art...like it even had  like...video games on it to keep your interest in  case he slipped into a coma for ages?"

If she interrupts during sarge-

"(Cold read) You talk a lot! 'Cos that would be  really handy if he was on life support...you could  tell him EVERYTHING and he'd never be able to  reply!  [Transition to another Opener] "Who lies more...guys or girls?"

"Okay….well would you date a BLIND guy...if he was  really hot?"  "If he had a guide dog would it piss you off....no way! You love dogs?!"

"Wouldn't it be bad if you introduced him to your folks  and the dog shit on the carpet?"

"If he went out the room would you move the  furniture around  to confuse him?"

"You could tell him you had magic INVISIBILITY  POWERS / You could tell him you had magic *NINJA POWERS*...and he'd believe you as he'd *never* see  them!!"

"Okay well would you date a guy with WEBBED  FEET?...if he was really hot?"

"What if he could swim *really well*? Like he  had fucking DUCK powers...

"What if he was an Olympic swimming champion……

What if he went for gold….but got SILVER......would you stick with him!?"

"What if he had...MONKEY powers?"

"What if he had........DINOSAUR powers--what dinosaur would you be?" And so on…

(Introduces Wingman)

"Would you date a super-fucking-hot GAY GUY....to  make his boyfriend super-Jealous?

[Offer arm out in club] "He's just over there (use for social proof)!"

"What if the guy was a movie star? And all the  girls thought  he was super hot!"

"Guess what! I just found out TOM SELLECK is gay… y'know…MAGNUM P.I.!"

"What if he was a fucking model.........[bring in  your WING] "This guy is an ASS model.......!"

"I'm a dildo model....!" [If the mood's right]

"Seriously…this guy is a SUPERSTAR…!" [Launch into some funny field tested routine about the two of  you]

Expensive Clothes Opener

"hey guys, I need a female opinion.. we were just Saks today, and there were all these 600$ collared tee-shirts.. when chicks see guys wearing 6bill shirts like that, do they think its classy or try-hard?" (that's the skeleton, obviously use your own speaking manneurisms)..

Then you can use what info and opinions they give you to bust on them, using all the usual stuff.

The Glasses or is x better than x Opener

Approach Girls

26 – Glasses off (take glasses off)

26 – Glasses on (put glasses on)

26 - What do you guys think looks better?

*HBs – (Responses: On!/Off!/What?/Laughing)

26 – Glasses off (take off glasses)

26 – Glasses on (put on glasses) (I did the sequence any where from 2 to 4 times)

HB1 – I like them on!

HB2 – I like them off! (If HBs disagree then they usually started laughing…I guess they think it’s funny that they have different opinions).

26 – My friends tell me I look like Clark Kent when I have the glasses on!

HBs – (Responses: Yeah you do! / No).

26 – Why do you like it when my glasses are on/off?

HB1 – (When likes glasses on) I think it makes you look sexy/it makes you look clever.

HB2 – (When likes glasses off) I think you look better with them off, but I like them on too!

THE DRUG DEALER OPENER

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